1 00:00:02,969 --> 00:00:06,072 My gravity assist was my village. 2 00:00:06,072 --> 00:00:09,409 You always hear, you know, “it takes a village to raise a child.” 3 00:00:09,442 --> 00:00:12,846 When I was about five years old, I went to the 4 00:00:13,380 --> 00:00:18,151 planetarium in London and it just completely opened my mind. 5 00:00:18,184 --> 00:00:21,421 I was nine years old when Apollo 11 landed, and I'll never, 6 00:00:21,421 --> 00:00:22,922 ever forget watching. 7 00:00:22,922 --> 00:00:26,326 A gravity assist is when a spacecraft gets a boost of speed 8 00:00:26,326 --> 00:00:29,162 as it flies by an object like Earth or Jupiter. 9 00:00:29,796 --> 00:00:34,501 But I also like to talk about gravity assist as an inspirational boost. 10 00:00:35,402 --> 00:00:39,272 It's that person, place, thing, or event that propels 11 00:00:39,339 --> 00:00:42,442 people into the careers that they have today. 12 00:00:43,576 --> 00:00:44,844 Hi, I'm Jim Green. 13 00:00:44,844 --> 00:00:47,680 And after five fantastic years 14 00:00:48,114 --> 00:00:51,684 as I have retired from the role of the NASA Chief Scientist, 15 00:00:52,085 --> 00:00:55,789 NASA's Gravity Assist podcast is coming to a close. 16 00:00:56,689 --> 00:01:00,260 I'm so grateful to you, the listeners, for coming on this 17 00:01:00,260 --> 00:01:03,863 journey with me to tour the solar system and beyond, 18 00:01:04,097 --> 00:01:08,101 to investigate the moon, to search for life beyond Earth. 19 00:01:08,501 --> 00:01:12,439 And of course, to interview those that are doing the discoveries 20 00:01:12,439 --> 00:01:14,541 that we are every day. 21 00:01:14,541 --> 00:01:18,511 You know, for this special final episode, we're going to talk about 22 00:01:18,511 --> 00:01:20,547 some of the highlights, some gravity assist 23 00:01:20,880 --> 00:01:24,184 in some of our NASA memories of how we pulled these off. 24 00:01:24,684 --> 00:01:28,188 Now, it's not only me that made these things happen. 25 00:01:28,188 --> 00:01:30,690 And as you know, that takes a team. 26 00:01:31,357 --> 00:01:35,028 And that team is Liz Landau and Manny Cooper, 27 00:01:35,395 --> 00:01:39,666 and they're here with me to talk about the success that we've had 28 00:01:39,866 --> 00:01:42,869 and the workings that needed to make this such 29 00:01:42,869 --> 00:01:46,072 a success behind the scenes at Gravity Assist. 30 00:01:46,339 --> 00:01:48,241 So welcome, Liz and Manny. 31 00:01:48,241 --> 00:01:50,343 Thanks to. Thanks, Jim. Glad to be here. 32 00:01:51,744 --> 00:01:52,412 And it's really 33 00:01:52,412 --> 00:01:56,616 hard to choose favorite episodes or even favorite gravity assists. 34 00:01:56,883 --> 00:02:00,587 But what I thought I'd do is, is have a chat with 35 00:02:00,854 --> 00:02:03,590 with Liz and Manny about what our favorites are. 36 00:02:04,124 --> 00:02:06,826 So without further ado, Liz, 37 00:02:06,993 --> 00:02:10,296 what are your favorite episodes in Gravity Assist? 38 00:02:10,763 --> 00:02:13,500 Oh my gosh, Jim, it's so hard to choose. 39 00:02:13,533 --> 00:02:16,936 I mean, it's been such an incredible journey to learn about 40 00:02:16,936 --> 00:02:21,908 the solar system and beyond, but especially some of the episodes 41 00:02:21,908 --> 00:02:26,045 in the astrobiology season were really compelling to me. 42 00:02:26,045 --> 00:02:30,416 You know, people going out to learn about Antarctica, 43 00:02:30,517 --> 00:02:34,821 finding out that there is life everywhere you look, even 44 00:02:34,821 --> 00:02:39,125 in the most extreme conditions on Earth as well as people 45 00:02:39,125 --> 00:02:44,297 looking at exoplanets for signs of life and how we might do that. 46 00:02:44,430 --> 00:02:48,835 Ravi Kopparupu at Goddard, I really enjoyed that episode, 47 00:02:48,835 --> 00:02:54,974 he talked about the possibility of could we even find pollution on an exoplanet? 48 00:02:54,974 --> 00:02:57,410 That's just so wild. 49 00:02:57,710 --> 00:03:02,248 We can't make this show happen without our audio engineer, Manny Cooper. 50 00:03:02,282 --> 00:03:07,053 Manny, what's what are some of the episodes that really stand out for you? 51 00:03:07,253 --> 00:03:10,290 There are a couple of episodes that really resonate with me. 52 00:03:11,057 --> 00:03:13,293 The first one is the What is 53 00:03:13,293 --> 00:03:15,395 Mars Sound Like episode with Nina Lanza. 54 00:03:16,296 --> 00:03:17,463 That was really cool. 55 00:03:17,463 --> 00:03:17,730 You know, 56 00:03:17,730 --> 00:03:21,568 especially being an audio engineer and getting to listen to sounds on Mars, 57 00:03:22,635 --> 00:03:25,004 the Ingenuity helicopter off in the distance, 58 00:03:25,004 --> 00:03:28,308 and then the metallic wheels on Perseverance, you know, rolling along. 59 00:03:28,308 --> 00:03:30,310 Can we hear the wind on Mars? 60 00:03:30,877 --> 00:03:32,045 We can. 61 00:03:32,045 --> 00:03:35,582 And you know, in many ways, it sounds like the wind on Earth, 62 00:03:35,582 --> 00:03:37,083 but in other ways it doesn't. 63 00:03:37,083 --> 00:03:39,052 So maybe we can take a listen. 64 00:03:39,052 --> 00:03:42,121 Yeah, let's do that. 65 00:03:43,756 --> 00:03:46,659 Another one was the Listening to the Universe, 66 00:03:46,659 --> 00:03:49,596 the Kim Arcand episode was really interesting too. 67 00:03:49,896 --> 00:03:53,266 She worked with an engineer to compose musical pieces. 68 00:03:53,266 --> 00:03:56,236 Yeah, Kim's data sonification are amazing. 69 00:03:56,236 --> 00:04:00,440 Let me play you a clip from one of those. 70 00:04:05,445 --> 00:04:07,113 This is a very classic image. 71 00:04:07,113 --> 00:04:09,315 It's of course, our home galaxy. 72 00:04:09,315 --> 00:04:13,886 We're looking at the inner about 400 lightyear region around 73 00:04:13,886 --> 00:04:19,859 the supermassive black hole Sagittarius A star at the very core of the Milky Way. 74 00:04:21,361 --> 00:04:23,396 Episodes that I 75 00:04:23,396 --> 00:04:27,267 really like are those that come with a surprise. 76 00:04:27,467 --> 00:04:30,570 When Catherine Walker talked about how 77 00:04:30,570 --> 00:04:33,373 she almost fell through a glacier, 78 00:04:33,940 --> 00:04:36,276 I mean, my heart stopped. 79 00:04:36,609 --> 00:04:38,745 You know, another one that I really liked 80 00:04:39,779 --> 00:04:43,016 was Sunny Panjwani, who he was 81 00:04:43,016 --> 00:04:45,585 in the JSC control room 82 00:04:46,152 --> 00:04:50,456 when the Russian module called Science was just connected 83 00:04:50,456 --> 00:04:54,661 to the International Space Station, and one of the rockets turned on. 84 00:04:55,295 --> 00:05:00,233 And that started the entire space station to spin. 85 00:05:00,500 --> 00:05:01,534 It was just surreal 86 00:05:01,534 --> 00:05:05,305 being there my first day and feeling like I was still stuck in the simulation. 87 00:05:05,638 --> 00:05:09,942 It really taught me that our training is there to push us to our limits again. 88 00:05:09,942 --> 00:05:11,911 And and sometimes, you know, 89 00:05:11,911 --> 00:05:14,180 you just you're sitting there and you can't believe what's happening, 90 00:05:14,180 --> 00:05:16,916 but you're calm and you're collected and you're ready to work the problem. 91 00:05:17,050 --> 00:05:20,987 I would go as far as to say that this entire process has been 92 00:05:21,521 --> 00:05:22,989 like my gravity assist. 93 00:05:22,989 --> 00:05:26,859 Yeah, I really feel the same way and that it is really one of my favorite 94 00:05:26,859 --> 00:05:31,264 things that I've ever worked on to be able to be a fly on the wall 95 00:05:31,264 --> 00:05:35,835 and listen to Jim Green talk to such an amazing range of people, 96 00:05:35,835 --> 00:05:39,906 and to learn about the possibilities of what is out there. 97 00:05:40,173 --> 00:05:43,142 We do hope that all of our audience out there 98 00:05:43,142 --> 00:05:46,579 has been inspired by this show in some way, shape or form. 99 00:05:46,879 --> 00:05:51,584 But you can also find out so many other great NASA podcasts 100 00:05:51,884 --> 00:05:55,254 by going to nasa.gov/podcasts. 101 00:05:55,254 --> 00:05:58,958 And in particular, check out things like the Curious Universe 102 00:05:59,392 --> 00:06:03,429 for which more great stories about the agency are being discussed. 103 00:06:04,330 --> 00:06:06,866 I'm Jim Green, and this has been your